That's interesting. That is not one of the birds that I was seeing last night; at least, I don't think that it is. Here are a couple of shots of that bird. (In the photos where the 4th swan joined 2 of the others briefly, it is the middle bird of the three in the photograph.) As far as I could see in the photos and through my binoculars, this one completely lacked the light color that is in the linked picture above. I am certainly not arguing with the ID of more experienced birders; I'm just wondering if one of the birds that I saw was a different bird because I'm curious and uncertain of my own ID skills when it comes to Trumpeters and Tundras.Thanks for the thoughts on these swans,Marie HoernerAurora, COOn Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Christian Nunes <pajaroboy@hotmail.com> wrote:--Birders,
The two obvious adult Tundra Swans, one with extensive yellow on the bill and the other with a small yellow tear drop, are the likely parents of the immature. This family group acts as a unit and they are rarely separated by very much space. One adult has extensive yellow on the bill, the other more of a small tear drop. The immature is dusky and has a pale spot on the bill that hasn't yet turned yellow. It has V-shaped forehead feathering, demonstrating the weakness of this field mark on immature birds.
The fourth bird is another adult, and is the head-scratcher. It spends more time by itself, often traveling over to the Valmont lakes. It is the individual recently photographed by Kyle Medina over at Sawhill Ponds (refer to his COBirds post from this morning "Swan- Sawhill Pond 2/24/17"). It is maybe slightly larger than the other swans, and the neck looks a little more sinuous and the back maybe more rounded. These features give it a resemblance to a Trumpeter. It currently has some heavy staining on the head and neck, which helps pick it out from a crowd, but is not something that's useful for ID. The thing is that it does have a pale spot on the bill in front of the eye- not bright yellow like the other Tundras, but more of an off white. The forehead feathering is also U-shaped, as in an adult Tundra. The legs are dark black, which might help rule out a "white morph" Trumpeter as described in David Sibley's blog post linked below. There's a good chance it's a Trumpeter x Tundra. Steve Mlodinow has extensive experience with both species and their crosses, so he might have more to chime in on that hypothesis.
A handy link to Kyle's photo: http://tinyurl.com/hpe7det
Some good reading: http://www.sibleyguides.com/20
11/07/trumpeter-swans-with-yel low-loral-spots/
Thanks,
Christian Nunes
Longmont, CO
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Swan #4 at Cottonwood MarshTo view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msI had not gotten the chance yet to post about this, but I saw four swans there last night. Three were Tundra Swans (2 adults and a 1st year), and the fourth I thought was a Trumpeter based on the complete lack of yellow in the lores and what seemed to be larger size (although they are hard to tell apart because of individual variability in the lores and I'm no expert when it comes to swans). It is nice to have confirmation since I was rather uncertain.
Marie HoernerAurora, CO--
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A fourth swan has just come in. It looks and sounds like a Trumpeter.
Mark MillerLongmont, CO
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