cobirds colorado rare bird: May 2020

Sunday 31 May 2020

Re: [cobirds] Rocky Mountain National Park update

My son works at RMNP and has been clearing snow at the Alpine Visitor Center and on the the upper parts of Trail Ridge Rd. He said they're shooting for a June 4 road opening if possible.

Kip Miller

Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:55 PM Carl Bendorf <carlbendorf@gmail.com> wrote:

I spent part of the morning yesterday in RMNP and have a few observations of possible interest to birders:

As you may already know, starting June 4, a timed entry ticket will be required to enter the park. The park website says "reservations" can be made for June 4 through July 31. This is all designed to limit crowds--you can read more at https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/fees.htm.
There appears to be a "loophole" in that if you can enter the park BEFORE 6 a.m., apparently there is no entry ticket (or entry fee) required. I believe the same is true if you enter after 5 p.m. (no entry ticket required.)
The Wild Basin entrance is completely closed to vehicles. When I was past there last week, the little parking area at the entrance was completely blocked off so it may not be possible to park and walk in either.
Trail Ridge Road is open only to Rainbow Curve. We park a little ways past the gate and certainly didn't see much snow so I suspect this closure (again, no info in when it might open) is intended to limit the number of visitors to the park.
One of the better spots for birding in RMNP is Endovalley but the road in Endovalley is closed after the West Alluvial Fan (my guess is to keep groups from congregating in the Endovalley picnic area.) Also, the parking at West Alluvial Fan has been reduced by various barriers, traffic cones, and the parking of some construction equipment. As far as I could tell, it would be OK to park at West Alluvial Fan and walk further west along the road but we couldn't find parking.
Of course, all of this seems to be subject to change and the park continues to figure out (experiment?) with safely re-opening.

Hope this is helpful.

Carl Bendorf
Longmont

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[cobirds] Re: ID Assistance: Willow Springs

Red-tailed Hawk

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 2:11:35 PM UTC-6, NicMar wrote:

Hi there. Can anyone assist in ID'ing this Hawk? Northern Goshawk? Ferruginous?

Any insight is much appreciated!

Nicolle Martin
Littleton, CO

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[cobirds] Rocky Mountain National Park update

I spent part of the morning yesterday in RMNP and have a few observations of possible interest to birders:

As you may already know, starting June 4, a timed entry ticket will be required to enter the park. The park website says "reservations" can be made for June 4 through July 31. This is all designed to limit crowds--you can read more at https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/fees.htm.
There appears to be a "loophole" in that if you can enter the park BEFORE 6 a.m., apparently there is no entry ticket (or entry fee) required. I believe the same is true if you enter after 5 p.m. (no entry ticket required.)
The Wild Basin entrance is completely closed to vehicles. When I was past there last week, the little parking area at the entrance was completely blocked off so it may not be possible to park and walk in either.
Trail Ridge Road is open only to Rainbow Curve. We park a little ways past the gate and certainly didn't see much snow so I suspect this closure (again, no info in when it might open) is intended to limit the number of visitors to the park.
One of the better spots for birding in RMNP is Endovalley but the road in Endovalley is closed after the West Alluvial Fan (my guess is to keep groups from congregating in the Endovalley picnic area.) Also, the parking at West Alluvial Fan has been reduced by various barriers, traffic cones, and the parking of some construction equipment. As far as I could tell, it would be OK to park at West Alluvial Fan and walk further west along the road but we couldn't find parking.

Of course, all of this seems to be subject to change and the park continues to figure out (experiment?) with safely re-opening.

Hope this is helpful.

Carl Bendorf

Longmont

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate - THREAD CLOSED

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Lame

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Scarlet Tanager, w. Buckhorn & deer creek canyon hotspot

CoBirders, please note that the driveway mentioned is private property that you would cross to access the area described, and the path referred to is actually a utility access , not a birding trail. Also parking there near Deer Creek is quite limited and there can be a lot of cars going through on "Buckhorn" (that section is *actually* Cougar Rd with Buckhorn a bit farther up - Joe the hot spot needs to be renamed). There is no easy public parking further up beyond the areas very close to Deer Creek, and I'm concerned about a rare bird raising concerns of the local residents if birders do not park wisely.

David Suddjian

Ken Caryl Valley

Littleton CO

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On May 31, 2020, at 2:10 PM, rosanne juergens <rosanne.juergens@gmail.com> wrote:

For those who haven't been to this eBird hotspot: after turning on w. buckhorn from Deer Creek Canyon Rd, park in the pullout on the right. Cross the street and go slightly up a driveway. A path shows up on the left. Go down the the little greenbelt to the lone Russian Olive bush. Face away from the road and look up to the highest trees. The Scarlet Tanager was making itself quite known by its singing!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B032'56.6%22N+105%C2%B008'05.7%22W/@39.5490593,-105.1349276,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.5490593!4d-105.1349276

Rosanne

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-6, Ben S wrote:
Thank you for posting!
Truelly amazing find and amazing bird! Due to the placement of a patches of yellow plumage, it looks like it could potentially the same bird seen a few days ago at Harriman Lake. Either way, great find. Interestingly, I drove by this location early this morning and noted that I heard a Red-eyed Vireo. I was on my way to Reynolds Park looking for (and not finding) Dusky Grouse (althought I did hear an Ovenbird on the way up). I didn't end up stopping at Deer Creek and Buckthorn. Shows what I could miss if I dont actually get out and look!
Ben Sampson
Centennial, CO

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Seems like this was a "teachable moment" for the ranch-hand.

Joe Roller, Denver

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On May 31, 2020, at 14:32, Preston Sowell <preston.sowell@gmail.com> wrote:

All, if anyone encounters a snake that they feel is a danger/problem in the Boulder area, please feel free to contact me. I am trained to handle rattlesnakes and I am called on to remove and relocate them from people's yards at least a couple times a year.

Preston

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 2:22:56 PM UTC-6, linda hodges wrote:
Birders,

In my opinion, it may be more helpful to offer suggestions on how to handle a situation than to assign blame.

Bill Maynard, your explanation of how you've dealt with poisonous snakes is greatly appreciated.

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:06 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-ho...@comcast.net> wrote:
Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_...@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Linda,

Humans need to realize when they are out in nature they are in the homes of the ones that live there and therefor humans need to think if this was my home would I protect it.

Beth Payne

Colorado Springs

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On May 31, 2020, at 2:22 PM, linda hodges <hikerhodges@gmail.com> wrote:

Birders,

In my opinion, it may be more helpful to offer suggestions on how to handle a situation than to assign blame.

Bill Maynard, your explanation of how you've dealt with poisonous snakes is greatly appreciated.

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:06 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@comcast.net> wrote:
Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_kosar@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Thats a bummer. I was hoping to go out there and photograph that snake when I get back into town.

Tyler Stewart

El Paso Co

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:22 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges@gmail.com> wrote:

Birders,

In my opinion, it may be more helpful to offer suggestions on how to handle a situation than to assign blame.

Bill Maynard, your explanation of how you've dealt with poisonous snakes is greatly appreciated.

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:06 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@comcast.net> wrote:
Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_kosar@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

All, if anyone encounters a snake that they feel is a danger/problem in the Boulder area, please feel free to contact me. I am trained to handle rattlesnakes and I am called on to remove and relocate them from people's yards at least a couple times a year.

Preston

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 2:22:56 PM UTC-6, linda hodges wrote:

Birders,

In my opinion, it may be more helpful to offer suggestions on how to handle a situation than to assign blame.

Bill Maynard, your explanation of how you've dealt with poisonous snakes is greatly appreciated.

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:06 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-ho...@comcast.net> wrote:
Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_...@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Birders,

In my opinion, it may be more helpful to offer suggestions on how to handle a situation than to assign blame.

Bill Maynard, your explanation of how you've dealt with poisonous snakes is greatly appreciated.

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges

Colorado Springs

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 2:06 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@comcast.net> wrote:

Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_kosar@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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[cobirds] ID Assistance: Willow Springs

Hi there. Can anyone assist in ID'ing this Hawk? Northern Goshawk? Ferruginous?

Any insight is much appreciated!

Nicolle Martin

Littleton, CO

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[cobirds] Re: Scarlet Tanager, w. Buckhorn & deer creek canyon hotspot

For those who haven't been to this eBird hotspot: after turning on w. buckhorn from Deer Creek Canyon Rd, park in the pullout on the right. Cross the street and go slightly up a driveway. A path shows up on the left. Go down the the little greenbelt to the lone Russian Olive bush. Face away from the road and look up to the highest trees. The Scarlet Tanager was making itself quite known by its singing!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B032'56.6%22N+105%C2%B008'05.7%22W/@39.5490593,-105.1349276,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.5490593!4d-105.1349276

Rosanne

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-6, Ben S wrote:

Thank you for posting!
Truelly amazing find and amazing bird! Due to the placement of a patches of yellow plumage, it looks like it could potentially the same bird seen a few days ago at Harriman Lake. Either way, great find. Interestingly, I drove by this location early this morning and noted that I heard a Red-eyed Vireo. I was on my way to Reynolds Park looking for (and not finding) Dusky Grouse (althought I did hear an Ovenbird on the way up). I didn't end up stopping at Deer Creek and Buckthorn. Shows what I could miss if I dont actually get out and look!
Ben Sampson
Centennial, CO

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Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Unconscionable.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper

Ft. Collins

On May 31, 2020, at 12:10 PM, kickback <bill_kosar@msn.com> wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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RE: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

On Saturday an unseen prairie rattlesnake could easily have struck me as I was photographing bees in prickly pear cactus near Hanover Road in El Paso County. The snake instinctively coiled and rattled instead. I instinctively backed away and took a few photos with my macro lens.

BTW, the Dickcissels have been using the Frost Ranch irrigated alfalfa and grass pastures for at least the 40 years I have been birding there. But, do you know where to look for them after they start mowing that alfalfa next week other than on eBird and the El Paso County WhatsApp?

Bill Maynard

Colorado Springs

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Subject: Re: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Not only that, the act was cruel and immoral.

Ted Floyd

Lafayette, Boulder County

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:05 PM <bbeatty7704@gmail.com> wrote:

Killing the snake was not necessary!
Brenda Beatty
Douglas County
Sedalia

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Subject: [cobirds] El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] Re: El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

I'll add my two cents and also agree. What next, kill all mountain lions and bears? No thank you. Joey, remember a long time ago when Laura and I found that I think we decided it was a Milk Snake at Chatfield State Park? Unfortunately, it was dead but still cool to see. The only way I can think of that may justify killing a rattlesnake would be if it was in someones yard along with children. Even then, I would prefer to try to remove and transfer it somewhere else where it and children would be safe.

Laura & Wayne Wathen

Highlands Ranch, CO

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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

Rattlesnakes, as all snakes, are pretty cool. They can live 15-20 years. Most of their growth takes place in their early years. Some species get up to 8 ft long, others 2 ft. As they do get older & bigger they are not as aggressive & are easier to escape from. It's the smaller ones that you have to watch out for.

As usual numbers are declining due to habitat loss.

Lisa & Emil

Superior

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:41 PM Joey Kellner <vireo1@comcast.net> wrote:

I have encountered LITERALLY hundreds of rattlesnakes in Colorado and perhaps another 100+ in Arizona. Some while driving and they're crossing the road, a number while hiking in the field. Never had any issues or problems with them. You see one, you can EASILY go around it or wait until it leaves. There is NEVER any reason to kill one.

Just another example of wildlife being wiped out by humans.

Joey.

Joey Kellner

Littleton, Colorado

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On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-6, kickback wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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Re: [cobirds] Re: El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

As usual numbers are declining due to habitat loss.

Lisa & Emil

Superior

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:41 PM Joey Kellner <vireo1@comcast.net> wrote:

I have encountered LITERALLY hundreds of rattlesnakes in Colorado and perhaps another 100+ in Arizona. Some while driving and they're crossing the road, a number while hiking in the field. Never had any issues or problems with them. You see one, you can EASILY go around it or wait until it leaves. There is NEVER any reason to kill one.

Just another example of wildlife being wiped out by humans.

Joey.

Joey Kellner
Littleton, Colorado

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On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-6, kickback wrote:
An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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[cobirds] Re: El Paso county Dickcissel and rattlesnake uppdate

I have encountered LITERALLY hundreds of rattlesnakes in Colorado and perhaps another 100+ in Arizona. Some while driving and they're crossing the road, a number while hiking in the field. Never had any issues or problems with them. You see one, you can EASILY go around it or wait until it leaves. There is NEVER any reason to kill one.

Just another example of wildlife being wiped out by humans.

Joey.

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Littleton, Colorado

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On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-6, kickback wrote:

An interesting and successful morning:

1. Found two Dickcissels just off Hanover road where the Frost Ranch sign is. The birds were on the power lines that run to the south.along a ranch road

2. Saw rattlesnake previously reported by Cinnamon (it was big)

3. Got ranch hand to kill rattlesnake

4. Took more pictures of Dickcissel

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

Colorado Springs

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