Friday, 23 November 2012

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

Not specifically.  But I guess what you're saying is, because it's ok to feed birds according to the ABA, it's ok to ignore the park rules.  Or by extension property owner rules.   It may be a silly rule, but it's one that is levied by the park, for reasons unknown to you.

So you can either ignore the rule or abide by it, but the hypocrisy of abiding by an "ABA rule of ethics" in the face of disregard for the property owner rules, should be recognized for what it is.  And trying to skirt your way around it  is just goofy

And please... to elevate any of this to the level of "civil disobedience", especially in having nuns do it for you (!!!) is not only ludicrous, but is also an afront to those people that have given up everything in the name of social justice.

I'm appalled by listers, time and again.  This the last I'll say on the subject.  

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm unclear here. Is Jim equating putting out seed for the birds at Bear Creek with killing a small dog of a property owner?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not aware that putting out seed for birds is a violation of the ABA code of ethics. Harassing birds is clearly against the code of ethics but that isn't happening here.  I'm not aware of anyone stalking this bird when in fact bicycle riders and hikers are constantly traversing the bridge where the bird is seen.
I certainly abide by the ABA code of ethics but when a rule is silly, it should be seen for what it really is.  Dumb.

Ira Sanders
Golden, CO

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Jim Dandy <jimdandy678@gmail.com> wrote:

Situational ethics alive and well.  Civil disobedience is standing up for what you believe to be unjust to society.  It's not breaking the rules just so that you can add a bird to your life list. Nor is it asking nuns to do your dirty work for you.

I see lots of posts here and on other birding lists along the lines of "Please, if  you come to see XYZ, respect the property owner and don't trample his grass or kill his small barking dog".  But I guess if it's a good bird, say goodbye to the dog!

What is the CFO position on this?

I've lurked here for years and joined this list specifically to post this.  I hope the list owners don't see fit to terminate me for this; that would say a lot in and of itself.


On Friday, November 23, 2012 11:03:01 AM UTC-7, Joe Roller wrote:
Dismayed at the officiousness of the Bear Creek Lake Park rangers, I worked up my indignation and managed to find a "work-around."

After many phone-calls and emails, I established contact with the three nuns (Sister Anne Marie, Sister Elizabeth and Sister Bernadette) who visited the Park the other day. They agreed 
to take a big bag of birdseed to the Brambling hangout tomorrow. Too busy today. Others will have to sneak some (seed, not nuns) into the park
on other days. 
If you missed rebelling in the sixties and did not burn your draft card, here is your chance to step
forward into the exciting world of civil disobedience!

Three of us are signed up so far to either go your bail or visit you in jail.

Joe Roller, 
Denver

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