Tuesday, 27 October 2026

Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Thanks all! 

For the record, I was not aware of the split and was just curious about how it would be resolved in eBird. I'm happy that my ABA list is one higher!

Best regards,

Tom Behnfield
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 3:10 PM Nathan D Pieplow <Nathan.Pieplow@colorado.edu> wrote:
I can second what Andrew said. I've never recorded an Eastern Marsh Wren in Colorado. Marsh Wrens can sing a lot on migration, but unfortunately they're usually singing run-on plastic songs that are harder to ID. We'll need good recordings (probably long ones) to confirm an Eastern Marsh Wren in the state.

Nathan

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Thanks Josh


On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 12:35 PM Josh Bruening <87211jjb@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom,

This should resolve itself unless during certain times of year Marsh Wren has traditionally been flagged as rare anyways. The default wren in this new split for Colorado will be Western Marsh Wren.  The new Western Marsh Wren will assume the existing filter limits for each filter region. There are no confirmed records of Eastern Marsh Wren in Colorado on eBird and if memory serves me correctly, there are no CBRC records either.  Maybe @Peter Gent  can confirm this.  In some recent communications with Andrew Spencer on our Colorado eBird review Slack channel he said:

 "Back when I was living in Colorado, I did spend a significant amount of effort trying to find an EMWR in the state, inlucing recording birds in the eastern tier of counties, especially during migration.  While I found a couple of birds that visually looked intriguing, every single one I recorded proved to be a WMWR. It does seem quite likely that EMWR is a very rare migrant on the eastern plains, identifying silent birds is complicated.  So getting recordings (if possible) of any potential EMWR would be vital!" (posting this with Andrew's permission).

Reviewers will be essentially requesting the same level of media/recordings for confirmation on eBird that we were looking for with the recent Warbling Vireo split.  @Nathan Pieplow -perhaps you could weigh in on your experience with these now two separate species?  Feel free to keep the questions coming!

Bird is the word!

Josh Bruening
Fort Collins

On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 11:09 AM behn...@gmail.com <behnfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County

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Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Thanks Josh

Tom Behnfield
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 12:35 PM Josh Bruening <87211jjb@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom,

This should resolve itself unless during certain times of year Marsh Wren has traditionally been flagged as rare anyways. The default wren in this new split for Colorado will be Western Marsh Wren.  The new Western Marsh Wren will assume the existing filter limits for each filter region. There are no confirmed records of Eastern Marsh Wren in Colorado on eBird and if memory serves me correctly, there are no CBRC records either.  Maybe @Peter Gent  can confirm this.  In some recent communications with Andrew Spencer on our Colorado eBird review Slack channel he said:

 "Back when I was living in Colorado, I did spend a significant amount of effort trying to find an EMWR in the state, inlucing recording birds in the eastern tier of counties, especially during migration.  While I found a couple of birds that visually looked intriguing, every single one I recorded proved to be a WMWR. It does seem quite likely that EMWR is a very rare migrant on the eastern plains, identifying silent birds is complicated.  So getting recordings (if possible) of any potential EMWR would be vital!" (posting this with Andrew's permission).

Reviewers will be essentially requesting the same level of media/recordings for confirmation on eBird that we were looking for with the recent Warbling Vireo split.  @Nathan Pieplow -perhaps you could weigh in on your experience with these now two separate species?  Feel free to keep the questions coming!

Bird is the word!

Josh Bruening
Fort Collins

On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 11:09 AM behn...@gmail.com <behnfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County

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Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Tom,

This should resolve itself unless during certain times of year Marsh Wren has traditionally been flagged as rare anyways. The default wren in this new split for Colorado will be Western Marsh Wren.  The new Western Marsh Wren will assume the existing filter limits for each filter region. There are no confirmed records of Eastern Marsh Wren in Colorado on eBird and if memory serves me correctly, there are no CBRC records either.  Maybe @Peter Gent  can confirm this.  In some recent communications with Andrew Spencer on our Colorado eBird review Slack channel he said:

 "Back when I was living in Colorado, I did spend a significant amount of effort trying to find an EMWR in the state, inlucing recording birds in the eastern tier of counties, especially during migration.  While I found a couple of birds that visually looked intriguing, every single one I recorded proved to be a WMWR. It does seem quite likely that EMWR is a very rare migrant on the eastern plains, identifying silent birds is complicated.  So getting recordings (if possible) of any potential EMWR would be vital!" (posting this with Andrew's permission).

Reviewers will be essentially requesting the same level of media/recordings for confirmation on eBird that we were looking for with the recent Warbling Vireo split.  @Nathan Pieplow -perhaps you could weigh in on your experience with these now two separate species?  Feel free to keep the questions coming!

Bird is the word!

Josh Bruening
Fort Collins

On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 11:09 AM behn...@gmail.com <behnfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County

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Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Thanks Todd!

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 11:23 AM Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a@gmail.com> wrote:
Ebird asked to wait until they are finished updating before you make changes. They will post on the website when the are done


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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026, 11:09 AM behn...@gmail.com <behnfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County

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Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Ebird asked to wait until they are finished updating before you make changes. They will post on the website when the are done


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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026, 11:09 AM behn...@gmail.com <behnfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County

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[cobirds] Marsh Wren vs Western Marsh Wren

Greetings all!

This morning I began getting Colorado Needs Alerts for Western Marsh Wren. Will this resolve itself or is there some action I need to take?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood/Jefferson County
behnfield@gmail.com

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Monday, 26 October 2026

[cobirds] Re: anyone want to go to Colorado springs tomorrow?

My godson, Topi Martinez, wants to go to Colorado Springs tomorrow, Tuesday, to look for a reported sharp tailed sandpiper.  I can’t go.  Please reply only to me if someone is going and he could go with you. Thank you. 



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