Well done Joe.
Ira Sanders
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Joe Roller <jroller9@gmail.com> wrote:
BobThe above is wrong.I talked to the head of Coors Securtiy (very cordial) about noon, and she will call me back after she checks.Birders want to be good neighbors and know what the rules areand Coors wants good Public Relations, so I expect good things to come of this.Will post her reply to COBirds.JoeOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Joe <jroller9@gmail.com> wrote:Bob anything beyond the very shoulder of the road is private. More than just the fenced area. I'll reach out to themJoeSent from my iPhoneI have been approached in the past by Coors security and I moved back to theShoulder, as the land near the fence was their property, I was told. Did not havea camera.Your note was helpful.JoeOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14@gmail.com> wrote:Didn't seem to bother us in years past.Ira SandersOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Joe Roller <jroller9@gmail.com> wrote:To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msThe deep background on the care with which Coors guards its property is thata few decades ago, the family suffered a horrible child kidnapping and murder.Plus a Coors family member lives right on the lakeshore.I can see why they are sensitive.Joe Roller, Denver--On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Steven Rash <srashchiro@gmail.com> wrote:Let me just preface this by saying I am not a lawyer.
I looked up the zoning for the properties along McIntyre right there and according to Jeffco Co records the property line does extend to the center of the road from both sides...
In this case the use of McIntyre is likely an easement which would grant public passage through there, but I think that's about it.
The grey area comes in that it is not typical that a property owner also owns roadside ditches. The way to find out for sure would be to dig into county records and see if coors is paying taxes on that entire parcel, or only up to their fence line. If it's the latter, then they can't really ask you to leave, or to not take pictures of anything that's viewable from there.
Just my two cents. Happy Birding.
Steve Rash
Denver Co
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