Wednesday, 1 February 2023

RE: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

In 2007, the still-pretty-nascent Salida CBC reported 3,025 Bohemian Waxwings in and around town. As I recall, it was the high count for the state that year.  A tiny claim to fame for this lovely little mountain CBC.

 

Tina Mitchell

Then, Lakewood/Coaldale, CO

Now, Oceanside, CA

 

Re: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

And this may explain my bad luck at the Wheat Ridge Greenbelt since I was usually looking in the late afternoon after working and while walking the dog. They were probably all headed to their evening roosts by the time I arrived. 

Good Birding,
Chip Clouse
Lakewood

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 7:42 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought folks might appreciate the observations of Charles Aiken as he noted in The Birds of El Paso County, 1914:

Bohemian Waxwing - 
"Winter visitor; irregular; not seen at all many winters.  
The first note we have of this species is January, 1872, when Aiken saw a flock in Barnes's Canyon, near Turkey Creek [near Aiken Canyon today], and a note that Carter killed on on Pike's Peak [note the old-style name of America's mountain] the fall of 1871.

"There are specimens in the Aiken collection taken on Cheyenne Mountain, January and February, 1880.  There were some around the winter of 1910-11, and they were in Colorado Springs, February 26, 1911.

"Aiken noted at Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1894, that in the late afternoon the Waxwings, which had been about neglected orchards near the town feeding on the apples still hanging to the trees, began to fly in flocks up the canyons toward the mountains, evidently going to their roosting places in the green timber."

Cedar Waxwing
"Noticed only two or three times in the earlier part of the winter [1872].  5 or 6 seen on Beaver Creek by Aiken, October 17, 1872.  This was just over the line into Fremont County.  Several were also seen by him just south of Colorado Springs, August 8, 1897."

In the 1991 Birds of Colorado by Robert Andrews and Robert Righter, they noted two summer records of Bohemian Waxwing:  August 5, 1917 in Denver County and July 13, 1924 at Lost Park (12,000 ft), in Park County.  They claim in their notes that the species generally does not mix with Cedar Waxwings, and state that movements of Cedar Waxwing do not appear to coincide with those of the Bohemian Waxwing.


My own questions/comments - 
1.  About Aiken's Salt Lake City note, I observed something extremely similar while watching the waxwings between North and Cheyenne Canyon in early January this year.    In late afternoon, as soon as the sun dipped behind the very near peaks (but still a few hours before sunset), the flock en masse took off and appeared to head to the location in South Cheyenne Canyon where they had been reported roosting in the early morning.

2.  About the Birds of Colorado note that the two species do not appear to mix and their movements do not appear to coincide - how sure are we about that?  This winter in El Paso County I have definitely seen much larger numbers and wider spread incidences of Cedar Waxwing, not just Bohemian, and I have often encountered groups of birds that contained both species.  This could be incidental, taking advantage of the same food sources, but both seem to be in increased numbers this winter - could some have also 'irrupted' concurrent with the Bohemians?  

Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:01 AM SeEttaM <seettam@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect the 2013 Bohemian Waxwings Brandon noted he saw in Fremont County were likely in the flock I posted about on my blog that were fly catching aerial insects at now closed Holcim Wetlands. 

My only other sighting in southern Colorado was of few Bohemian Waxwings I remember seeing in Salida around 2015 but I didn't post them anywhere.

SeEtta Moss 
Canon City 







On Tue, Jan 31, 2023, 4:21 PM Brandon <flammowl17@gmail.com> wrote:
In Southern Colorado, the last eruption of Bohemian Waxwings was in February 2005, there were 3,000+ around Lathrop State Park, Huerfano County.  Between 2005 and 2022, I only saw Bohemian Waxwings in Colorado in 2013 in Fremont County, a small number.  

Colorado Christmas Bird Counts this winter, found some Bohemian Waxwings, though the big numbers were mostly found after the Christmas Bird Count season was over.  Since not all the results are in yet, I don't know how many counts found them, and how many.  

Though so far, six counts found them, with a total of 250 birds.  

Denver (urban) CBC - 1
Douglas County CBC - 37
Granby CBC - 60
Gunnison CBC - 30
Loveland CBC - 81
Weldona-Fort Morgan CBC - 41
 
Brandon Percival
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Re: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

CoBirders,
Yes, 2013 seems to have been a good irruption year for Bohemian Waxwings (BOWA) too. I chased a huge flock being seen near Loveland at Simpson Ponds SWA in mid-March of that year. These were my eBird lifers (first time reported to eBird) though I had seen them almost 2 decades earlier in MT and in AK.
I'm one of those birders that hasn't managed to find a huge flock this year. I've had a total of 6 in a mixed flock in junipers near Marston Lake a couple days ago after at least 6 visits to the Wheat Ridge Greenbelt. I keep looking...

Good Birding,
Chip Clouse
Lakewood

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 3:01 AM SeEttaM <seettam@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect the 2013 Bohemian Waxwings Brandon noted he saw in Fremont County were likely in the flock I posted about on my blog that were fly catching aerial insects at now closed Holcim Wetlands. 

My only other sighting in southern Colorado was of few Bohemian Waxwings I remember seeing in Salida around 2015 but I didn't post them anywhere.

SeEtta Moss 
Canon City 







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In Southern Colorado, the last eruption of Bohemian Waxwings was in February 2005, there were 3,000+ around Lathrop State Park, Huerfano County.  Between 2005 and 2022, I only saw Bohemian Waxwings in Colorado in 2013 in Fremont County, a small number.  

Colorado Christmas Bird Counts this winter, found some Bohemian Waxwings, though the big numbers were mostly found after the Christmas Bird Count season was over.  Since not all the results are in yet, I don't know how many counts found them, and how many.  

Though so far, six counts found them, with a total of 250 birds.  

Denver (urban) CBC - 1
Douglas County CBC - 37
Granby CBC - 60
Gunnison CBC - 30
Loveland CBC - 81
Weldona-Fort Morgan CBC - 41
 
Brandon Percival
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[cobirds] Bohemian Waxwing Question

CoBirders,

Since I already "have" BOWA on my Arapahoe county eBird list, I no longer get alerts about sightings. I only saw one a couple of weeks ago, and I'd love to see more (and often eBird reports can give me that information). 

What's the best way to query eBird for single species information in one county?  I've poked around the "Explore" tab, but can't seem to get it right.

And, thanks for all the great BOWA conversation the last few days; it's been great!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe county

Re: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

Quick correction:  not "Birds of Colorado" but Colorado Birds - is the correct title for the work by Andrews and Righter.  There is a Birds of Colorado by Alfred M Bailey  and Robert J. Niedrach.


Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 7:42 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought folks might appreciate the observations of Charles Aiken as he noted in The Birds of El Paso County, 1914:

Bohemian Waxwing - 
"Winter visitor; irregular; not seen at all many winters.  
The first note we have of this species is January, 1872, when Aiken saw a flock in Barnes's Canyon, near Turkey Creek [near Aiken Canyon today], and a note that Carter killed on on Pike's Peak [note the old-style name of America's mountain] the fall of 1871.

"There are specimens in the Aiken collection taken on Cheyenne Mountain, January and February, 1880.  There were some around the winter of 1910-11, and they were in Colorado Springs, February 26, 1911.

"Aiken noted at Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1894, that in the late afternoon the Waxwings, which had been about neglected orchards near the town feeding on the apples still hanging to the trees, began to fly in flocks up the canyons toward the mountains, evidently going to their roosting places in the green timber."

Cedar Waxwing
"Noticed only two or three times in the earlier part of the winter [1872].  5 or 6 seen on Beaver Creek by Aiken, October 17, 1872.  This was just over the line into Fremont County.  Several were also seen by him just south of Colorado Springs, August 8, 1897."

In the 1991 Birds of Colorado by Robert Andrews and Robert Righter, they noted two summer records of Bohemian Waxwing:  August 5, 1917 in Denver County and July 13, 1924 at Lost Park (12,000 ft), in Park County.  They claim in their notes that the species generally does not mix with Cedar Waxwings, and state that movements of Cedar Waxwing do not appear to coincide with those of the Bohemian Waxwing.


My own questions/comments - 
1.  About Aiken's Salt Lake City note, I observed something extremely similar while watching the waxwings between North and Cheyenne Canyon in early January this year.    In late afternoon, as soon as the sun dipped behind the very near peaks (but still a few hours before sunset), the flock en masse took off and appeared to head to the location in South Cheyenne Canyon where they had been reported roosting in the early morning.

2.  About the Birds of Colorado note that the two species do not appear to mix and their movements do not appear to coincide - how sure are we about that?  This winter in El Paso County I have definitely seen much larger numbers and wider spread incidences of Cedar Waxwing, not just Bohemian, and I have often encountered groups of birds that contained both species.  This could be incidental, taking advantage of the same food sources, but both seem to be in increased numbers this winter - could some have also 'irrupted' concurrent with the Bohemians?  

Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:01 AM SeEttaM <seettam@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect the 2013 Bohemian Waxwings Brandon noted he saw in Fremont County were likely in the flock I posted about on my blog that were fly catching aerial insects at now closed Holcim Wetlands. 

My only other sighting in southern Colorado was of few Bohemian Waxwings I remember seeing in Salida around 2015 but I didn't post them anywhere.

SeEtta Moss 
Canon City 







On Tue, Jan 31, 2023, 4:21 PM Brandon <flammowl17@gmail.com> wrote:
In Southern Colorado, the last eruption of Bohemian Waxwings was in February 2005, there were 3,000+ around Lathrop State Park, Huerfano County.  Between 2005 and 2022, I only saw Bohemian Waxwings in Colorado in 2013 in Fremont County, a small number.  

Colorado Christmas Bird Counts this winter, found some Bohemian Waxwings, though the big numbers were mostly found after the Christmas Bird Count season was over.  Since not all the results are in yet, I don't know how many counts found them, and how many.  

Though so far, six counts found them, with a total of 250 birds.  

Denver (urban) CBC - 1
Douglas County CBC - 37
Granby CBC - 60
Gunnison CBC - 30
Loveland CBC - 81
Weldona-Fort Morgan CBC - 41
 
Brandon Percival
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Pueblo West, CO




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Re: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

I thought folks might appreciate the observations of Charles Aiken as he noted in The Birds of El Paso County, 1914:

Bohemian Waxwing - 
"Winter visitor; irregular; not seen at all many winters.  
The first note we have of this species is January, 1872, when Aiken saw a flock in Barnes's Canyon, near Turkey Creek [near Aiken Canyon today], and a note that Carter killed on on Pike's Peak [note the old-style name of America's mountain] the fall of 1871.

"There are specimens in the Aiken collection taken on Cheyenne Mountain, January and February, 1880.  There were some around the winter of 1910-11, and they were in Colorado Springs, February 26, 1911.

"Aiken noted at Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1894, that in the late afternoon the Waxwings, which had been about neglected orchards near the town feeding on the apples still hanging to the trees, began to fly in flocks up the canyons toward the mountains, evidently going to their roosting places in the green timber."

Cedar Waxwing
"Noticed only two or three times in the earlier part of the winter [1872].  5 or 6 seen on Beaver Creek by Aiken, October 17, 1872.  This was just over the line into Fremont County.  Several were also seen by him just south of Colorado Springs, August 8, 1897."

In the 1991 Birds of Colorado by Robert Andrews and Robert Righter, they noted two summer records of Bohemian Waxwing:  August 5, 1917 in Denver County and July 13, 1924 at Lost Park (12,000 ft), in Park County.  They claim in their notes that the species generally does not mix with Cedar Waxwings, and state that movements of Cedar Waxwing do not appear to coincide with those of the Bohemian Waxwing.


My own questions/comments - 
1.  About Aiken's Salt Lake City note, I observed something extremely similar while watching the waxwings between North and Cheyenne Canyon in early January this year.    In late afternoon, as soon as the sun dipped behind the very near peaks (but still a few hours before sunset), the flock en masse took off and appeared to head to the location in South Cheyenne Canyon where they had been reported roosting in the early morning.

2.  About the Birds of Colorado note that the two species do not appear to mix and their movements do not appear to coincide - how sure are we about that?  This winter in El Paso County I have definitely seen much larger numbers and wider spread incidences of Cedar Waxwing, not just Bohemian, and I have often encountered groups of birds that contained both species.  This could be incidental, taking advantage of the same food sources, but both seem to be in increased numbers this winter - could some have also 'irrupted' concurrent with the Bohemians?  

Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:01 AM SeEttaM <seettam@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect the 2013 Bohemian Waxwings Brandon noted he saw in Fremont County were likely in the flock I posted about on my blog that were fly catching aerial insects at now closed Holcim Wetlands. 

My only other sighting in southern Colorado was of few Bohemian Waxwings I remember seeing in Salida around 2015 but I didn't post them anywhere.

SeEtta Moss 
Canon City 







On Tue, Jan 31, 2023, 4:21 PM Brandon <flammowl17@gmail.com> wrote:
In Southern Colorado, the last eruption of Bohemian Waxwings was in February 2005, there were 3,000+ around Lathrop State Park, Huerfano County.  Between 2005 and 2022, I only saw Bohemian Waxwings in Colorado in 2013 in Fremont County, a small number.  

Colorado Christmas Bird Counts this winter, found some Bohemian Waxwings, though the big numbers were mostly found after the Christmas Bird Count season was over.  Since not all the results are in yet, I don't know how many counts found them, and how many.  

Though so far, six counts found them, with a total of 250 birds.  

Denver (urban) CBC - 1
Douglas County CBC - 37
Granby CBC - 60
Gunnison CBC - 30
Loveland CBC - 81
Weldona-Fort Morgan CBC - 41
 
Brandon Percival
Colorado CBC Regional Editor
Pueblo West, CO




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Re: [cobirds] Historical perspective on Bohemians?

I suspect the 2013 Bohemian Waxwings Brandon noted he saw in Fremont County were likely in the flock I posted about on my blog that were fly catching aerial insects at now closed Holcim Wetlands. 

My only other sighting in southern Colorado was of few Bohemian Waxwings I remember seeing in Salida around 2015 but I didn't post them anywhere.

SeEtta Moss 
Canon City 







On Tue, Jan 31, 2023, 4:21 PM Brandon <flammowl17@gmail.com> wrote:
In Southern Colorado, the last eruption of Bohemian Waxwings was in February 2005, there were 3,000+ around Lathrop State Park, Huerfano County.  Between 2005 and 2022, I only saw Bohemian Waxwings in Colorado in 2013 in Fremont County, a small number.  

Colorado Christmas Bird Counts this winter, found some Bohemian Waxwings, though the big numbers were mostly found after the Christmas Bird Count season was over.  Since not all the results are in yet, I don't know how many counts found them, and how many.  

Though so far, six counts found them, with a total of 250 birds.  

Denver (urban) CBC - 1
Douglas County CBC - 37
Granby CBC - 60
Gunnison CBC - 30
Loveland CBC - 81
Weldona-Fort Morgan CBC - 41
 
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Pueblo West, CO




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