Re: [cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

I totally support not spending anymore time and energy on this. 

Philip

On Nov 29, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Evan Carlson <emcarlson8@gmail.com> wrote:

"I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds like you saw posts from random people on social media.

All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway if only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And a few million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of several years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies from each of us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend to get better names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't been discussed previously on COBirds.

For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining and trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better spent trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those decisions.

Evan Carlson

Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <hopkohome8@gmail.com> wrote:

COBirders,

I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if so inclined to also sign it. 

A few notes before signing.

After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation. Change.org is free and any donations received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. 

Instead, click on "No, I'll Share Instead" which will take you to a page that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that information along with any other comments you may want to share.

The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr 

One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better spent on conserving birds & their habitats. 

R.

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper

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Ft. Collins, CO

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