Re: [cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

I signed the petition to not change English language bird  names, because it does not help women or minorites at all, to change these

names nor does it change the history of these individuals, to try to  forget about them.  Remembering and learning from mistakes  is "better". 

What helps women and minorities get interested in and stick with birding, is mentoring.  I feel grateful to a lot

of mentors in this community in DFO, CFO, Boulder Bird Club and Broomfield Bird club, Thank you.    And,  thanks, Rachel Hopper, for

bringing this to our attention.   Every field guide we own can be thrown away if this occurs,

or you can cross out 100 plus names. Is this just about publishers trying to make money or what?  ! 

Patricia Cullen

Longmont, CO 

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-7 Philip McNichols wrote:

I totally support not spending anymore time and energy on this. 

Philip

On Nov 29, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Evan Carlson <emcar...@gmail.com> wrote:

"I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds like you saw posts from random people on social media.

All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway if only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And a few million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of several years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies from each of us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend to get better names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't been discussed previously on COBirds.

For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining and trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better spent trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those decisions.

Evan Carlson

Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <hopko...@gmail.com> wrote:

COBirders,

I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if so inclined to also sign it. 

A few notes before signing.

After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation. Change.org is free and any donations received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. 

Instead, click on "No, I'll Share Instead" which will take you to a page that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that information along with any other comments you may want to share.

The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr 

One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better spent on conserving birds & their habitats. 

R.

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Re: [cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

I totally support not spending anymore time and energy on this. 

Philip

On Nov 29, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Evan Carlson <emcarlson8@gmail.com> wrote:

"I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds like you saw posts from random people on social media.

All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway if only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And a few million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of several years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies from each of us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend to get better names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't been discussed previously on COBirds.

For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining and trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better spent trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those decisions.

Evan Carlson

Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <hopkohome8@gmail.com> wrote:

COBirders,

I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if so inclined to also sign it. 

A few notes before signing.

After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation. Change.org is free and any donations received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. 

Instead, click on "No, I'll Share Instead" which will take you to a page that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that information along with any other comments you may want to share.

The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr 

One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better spent on conserving birds & their habitats. 

R.

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Re: [cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

"I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds like you saw posts from random people on social media.

All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway if only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And a few million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of several years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies from each of us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend to get better names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't been discussed previously on COBirds.

For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining and trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better spent trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those decisions.

Evan Carlson

Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <hopkohome8@gmail.com> wrote:

COBirders,

I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if so inclined to also sign it. 

A few notes before signing.

After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation. Change.org is free and any donations received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. 

Instead, click on "No, I'll Share Instead" which will take you to a page that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that information along with any other comments you may want to share.

The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr 

One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better spent on conserving birds & their habitats. 

R.

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[cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

COBirders,

I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if so inclined to also sign it. 

A few notes before signing.

After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation. Change.org is free and any donations received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. 

Instead, click on "No, I'll Share Instead" which will take you to a page that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that information along with any other comments you may want to share.

The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr 

One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better spent on conserving birds & their habitats. 

R.

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[cobirds] Barr Lake update

Hi all,

Passing this along from Bird Conservancy of the Rockies.

Nathan Pieplow

Boulder

Update on Barr Lake from Bird Conservancy of the Rockies:

Bird Conservancy of the Rockies met with FRICO (Farmers Reservoir and Irrigation Company) and CPW staff to discuss mitigating damage to critical bird habitat at Barr Lake. FRICO's work along the shore, berm and ditch are expected to take place over the next couple of years and extend along a large segment of the eastern shoreline. They are removing trees that are close to the berm, vegetation in the ditch and changing the slope of the berm and adding riprap for bank stabilization. 

 Bird Conservancy has banded and released over 45,000 birds of 123 species over the past 35 years at Barr Lake, an invaluable stopover for migratory and resident birds. FRICO has agreed to work with Colorado Parks and Wildlife and us to minimize the impact on the habitat and the upcoming spring migration season and assist with revegetation over the next several years as well as helping mitigate the loss of large trees with nesting platforms. This will include looking at planting shrubs and other native, water loving plants along the shoreline to help with nesting and migratory bird habitat.

We want to thank the bird and conservation community and our partners with Colorado Field Ornithologists (CFO), Denver Field Ornithologists (DFO), Audubon, Wild Birds Unlimited-Fort Collins, Longmont and Denver area stores, individuals and other organizations who are raising their voices and providing awareness for this critical place for birds.

For additional background information on this project: https://www.9news.com/video/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/why-trees-are-disappearing-from-barr-lake-park/73-79ef4125-c3ac-432d-80ec-b983b2d7c119

 

 

 

 

Amy Burnett

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[cobirds] Yellow throated warbler at FCNC (picture)

The yellow throated warbler is continuing to hang around the Fountain Creek Nature Center. About 8 folks saw it at about 11:30 this morning (Tuesday). Really a good looking bird.

  It was a great day weather-wise for birding!

Bill Kosar

El Paso county

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[cobirds] Greater white fronted geese Dodd Reservoir

This afternoon among the thousands of cackling and hundreds of Canada geese, there were three greater white fronted geese, as well as two snow geese and an Arctic goose (Ross's goose). The resident bald eagles also were sitting around nearby.


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[cobirds] House Finches + Rocky Mtn Bee Plant - Arapahoe

I've grown Rocky Mountain Bee Plant (Cleome serrulata) for several years in the backyard of my Centennial home. The species spreads more than I'd like and the foliage has earned in the name skunkweed. But I appreciate it for attracting all kinds of pollinators, hummingbirds included and, one summer, a tarantula hawk.

I've never noticed songbirds feeding on its seeds. I figured it was because the seeds tend to fall -- they're in pods, which split open as they dry, and between my dogs and me, we're constantly brushing up against the plants and rattling seeds loose. (I've also probably not watched carefully enough.) But this year, they're being visited by House Finches, who appear to be feeding at the seed heads. Junco forage below them -- but there's all kinds of stuff on the ground, so who knows what they're eating. 

The House Finches also seem happy to remain perched in the most robust of the bee plants, some of which cleared 6 feet this year with all the moisture, and enjoy the sun.

- Jared Del Rosso

Centennial, CO

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[cobirds] This Tuesday! BCAS November Program- Documentary Film: Mighty Oak

Documentary Film Mighty Oak and A Tribute to Oakleigh Thorne II

Boulder County Audubon presents a special showing of the film Mighty Oak, with honored guests Oak Thorne, plus Pam Hoge and Christine Anderson, who produced and directed the film. Join us to watch and discuss the film with Dr. Thorne and the filmmakers! See here for program details. This program will not be livestreamed or recorded.

Everyone is welcome to join us before the program for our annual holiday gathering - see details here.

View the film trailer here.

When: Tuesday, November 28, 7:15 PM - 8:45 PM

Where: Unitarian Universalist Church of Boulder (map)

See recordings of previous BCAS programs here!

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[cobirds] Long-tailed Duck -- Ridgway Reservoir

Hello all,

A single Long-tailed Duck was present today at Ridgway Reservoir.  I think this individual represents only the second record for the species in Ouray County (4 Long-tailed Ducks were present on the reservoir  Nov. 17, 2021).  It was among an estimated 800 ducks of 16 species on the entire reservoir, which was an eight-fold increase in the number of ducks from yesterday.  A flock of 92 Snow Goose flew over, but showed no interest in stopping.  Here is my checklist with photos of the Long-tailed Duck: eBird Checklist - 26 Nov 2023 - Ridgway SP--Bay View Day Use Area - 15 species (+2 other taxa)

Don Marsh

Ridgway, CO

 

[cobirds] Re: Denver Christmas Bird Count information

Denver CBC Compiler: Joey Kellner à SWDenverBirding at gmail.com

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Hello COBIRDers!

 

The Denver CBC can ALWAYS use more eyes and ears (regardless of birder skill level).  See information below.

 

Even if you cannot help out on the Denver CBC, PLEASE consider helping out on a Christmas Bird Count (CBC) near you (or one further afield to perhaps a new birding location for you). 

 

Joey.

 

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69th DENVER CHRISTMAS BIRD COUNT - SATURDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2023

 

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Feeder Coordinator: Joey Kellner – Feeder watchers, please send your list of species and numbers of each species to the email above as soon as possible after "Count Day".

 

All are encouraged to participate in the annual Denver Christmas Bird Count (CBC) sponsored the National Audubon Society. 

 

Fees: None!  So, no excuses!  Come have a great time and help count birds!  Beginners and experts all welcome!

 

After a day in the field, all participants are invited to attend the compilation meeting to warm up, chat with other birders, and find out how the count fared. It is a lot of fun.  The compilation meeting will be at approximately 5:00pm in the multipurpose room at the Chatfield State Park headquarters (south side of the lake near the Heronry Overlook); State Parks vehicle entry pass required.  Please carpool if possible. 

 

The 15-mile diameter "count circle" is subdivided into 24 "count areas" each with an Area Leader.  To participate, please contact the Area Leader (see below).  If you would like to help in an area that still needs additional observers call the Count Compiler. 

 

To prevent phone numbers and/or email addresses from being posted to COBIRDS, please contact the Compiler (contact info above) for contact information for all Area Leaders.

 

Area  Number and Location                       Area Leader         

1.      Red Rocks Park                                Gregg Goodrich    

2.      Lower Bear Creek                            Scott Somershoe   

2A.    Bear Creek Lake Park                       Cyndy Johnson     

3.      Bow Mar/Marston                            Art Hudak                          

4A.    Lower South Platte - East                  Ed Holub             

4B.    Lower South Platte - West                 Glenn Walbek      

5.      Highline Ditch                                  Nancy Crews        

6.      Plum Creek                                      Norm Erthal         

7A.    Middle South Platte - West                Sue Summers       

7B.    Middle South Platte - East                 Steve Stachowiak 

8.      Chatfield Reservoir                           Joey Kellner         

9.      Upper South Platte *                         Jill Holden           

10.    Lower Deer Creek (Chatfield Farms) Barbra Sobhani     

11.    Upper Deer Creek                             Paul Slingsby       

12.    Yegge Peak                                      Cynthia Madsen   

13.    Doublehead Mountain                       Amy Davis           

14.    North Turkey Creek                          Ed Furlong           

15.    Indian Hills                                      Dick Prickett        

16.    Upper Bear Creek                             Laura Steadman    

17.    Ken Caryl Ranch                              David Suddjian     

18.    Garrison Gate                                   Leader Needed     

19.    Morrison/Willowbrook                     Chris Gilbert        

20.    Willow Creek                                   Dale Pate             

21.    Mount Lindo/Willow Springs            Chris Sherry         

 

*  To participate in this area, you must contact the area leader no later than Monday, November 22.

 

 

Below area numbers correspond with the area numbers above.

 

 

 

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[cobirds] Denver Christmas Bird Count information

Hello COBIRDers!

 

The Denver CBC can ALWAYS use more eyes and ears (regardless of birder skill level).  See information below.

 

Even if you cannot help out on the Denver CBC, PLEASE consider helping out on a Christmas Bird Count (CBC) near you (or one further afield to perhaps a new birding location for you). 

 

Joey.

 

Joey Kellner

Compiler - Denver CBC

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69th DENVER CHRISTMAS BIRD COUNT - SATURDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2023

 

Count Leader/Compiler:  Joey Kellner, SWDenverBirding@gmail.com

Feeder Coordinator: Joey Kellner – Feeder watchers, please send your list of species and numbers of each species to the email above as soon as possible after “Count Day”.

 

All are encouraged to participate in the annual Denver Christmas Bird Count (CBC) sponsored the National Audubon Society. 

 

Fees: None!  So, no excuses!  Come have a great time and help count birds!  Beginners and experts all welcome!

 

After a day in the field, all participants are invited to attend the compilation meeting to warm up, chat with other birders, and find out how the count fared. It is a lot of fun.  The compilation meeting will be at approximately 5:00pm in the multipurpose room at the Chatfield State Park headquarters (south side of the lake near the Heronry Overlook); State Parks vehicle entry pass required.  Please carpool if possible. 

 

The 15-mile diameter “count circle” is subdivided into 24 “count areas” each with an Area Leader.  To participate, please contact the Area Leader (see below).  If you would like to help in an area that still needs additional observers call the Count Compiler. 

 

To prevent phone numbers and/or email addresses from being posted to COBIRDS, please contact the Compiler (contact info above) for contact information for all Area Leaders.

 

Area  Number and Location                       Area Leader         

1.      Red Rocks Park                                Gregg Goodrich    

2.      Lower Bear Creek                            Scott Somershoe   

2A.    Bear Creek Lake Park                       Cyndy Johnson     

3.      Bow Mar/Marston                            Art Hudak                          

4A.    Lower South Platte - East                  Ed Holub             

4B.    Lower South Platte - West                 Glenn Walbek      

5.      Highline Ditch                                  Nancy Crews        

6.      Plum Creek                                      Norm Erthal         

7A.    Middle South Platte - West                Sue Summers       

7B.    Middle South Platte - East                 Steve Stachowiak 

8.      Chatfield Reservoir                           Joey Kellner         

9.      Upper South Platte *                         Jill Holden           

10.    Lower Deer Creek (Chatfield Farms) Barbra Sobhani     

11.    Upper Deer Creek                             Paul Slingsby       

12.    Yegge Peak                                      Cynthia Madsen   

13.    Doublehead Mountain                       Amy Davis           

14.    North Turkey Creek                          Ed Furlong           

15.    Indian Hills                                      Dick Prickett        

16.    Upper Bear Creek                             Laura Steadman    

17.    Ken Caryl Ranch                              David Suddjian     

18.    Garrison Gate                                   Leader Needed     

19.    Morrison/Willowbrook                     Chris Gilbert        

20.    Willow Creek                                   Dale Pate             

21.    Mount Lindo/Willow Springs            Chris Sherry         

 

*  To participate in this area, you must contact the area leader no later than Monday, November 22.

 

 

Below area numbers correspond with the area numbers above.

 

 

 

[cobirds] SE CO bird updates (Bent)

The Harris's Hawk first found by Norma Verhoeff was still present along US50 about 11 miles w of Lamar. The exact location was US50 jct Bent CR33. It was atop a wooden telephone pole on the south side. All sightings I am aware of have been between CR33 on the east and CR 32 a mile to the west, with the bird either sitting atop short or tall poles, or cavorting in flight with harriers. US50 milepost 423 is in the heart of the Harris's Hawk activity area.

The Black-legged Kittiwake first reported by Glenn Walbek a few days ago was still present at Long Lake on Kiowa CR 19 between Blue Lake and Haswell. Also at Long Lake were two White-fronted Geese, two Black-bellied Plovers, two Bonaparte's Gulls, at least one Greater Scaup, lots of white and white-cheeked geese, Sandhill Cranes, flyover longspurs, total of 34 species. Locals say this playa rarely has water but when it does, it somehow has fish, and then lots of birds.

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins (or Lamar)
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[cobirds] Re: Colorado Christmas Bird Count Dates updated

Hello Brandon,

Let's plan on the Lake Isabel count for Friday, December 29th. 

Gib

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On Nov 21, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Brandon <flammowl17@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,

Here is an update on Colorado Christmas Bird Count dates for December 2023-January 2024.  If you know the date for any of the counts with TBA (To Be Announced), please let me know.

Air Force Academy - TBA

Aspen - Sunday, 17 December 2023

Barr Lake - Sunday, 31 December 2023

Black Forest - TBA

Bonny Reservoir - Friday, 22 December 2023

Boulder – Sunday, 17 December 2023

Colorado Springs – Saturday, 16 December 2023

Cortez - Saturday, 30 December 2023

Crook - Saturday, 23 December 2023

Delta - Sunday, 23 December 2023

Denver - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Denver (Urban) - Monday, 1 January 2024

Dotsero - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Douglas County - Saturday, 30 December 2023

Durango - Sunday, 17 December 2023

Eagle Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Evergreen-Idaho Springs – Sunday, 17 December 2023

Fairplay - TBA

Flagler - Saturday, 30 December 2023

Fort Collins - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Fountain Creek – Thursday, 14 December 2023

Granby - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Grand Junction – Sunday, 17 December 2023

Grand Mesa – Monday, 1 January 2024

Great Sand Dunes N.P. - TBA

Greeley - TBA

Gunnison - Sunday, 17 December 2023

Hotchkiss - Monday, 1 January 2024

John Martin Reservoir - Thursday, 14 December 2023

Lake Isabel - TBA

Longmont - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Loveland - Monday, 1 January 2024

Monte Vista N.W.R. - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Montrose - TBA

North JeffCo – Sunday, 17 December 2023

Nunn - Sunday, 17 December 2023

Penrose - Sunday, 17 December 2023

Pinon Canyon - TBA

Pueblo - TBA

Pueblo Reservoir – Saturday, 16 December 2023

Rawhide Energy Station - TBA

Rifle Creek - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Roaring Fork River Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023

Rocky Ford - Friday. 15 December 2023

Rocky Mountain N.P. - TBA

Salida – Friday, 15 December 2023

Spanish Peaks - TBA

Steamboat Springs - TBA

Summit County - TBA

Weldona-Fort Morgan - Thursday. 14 December 2023

Westcliffe - TBA

Windy Peak Area - TBA

https://www.audubon.org/conserv.../join-christmas-bird-count

Brandon Percival

Colorado CBC Regional Editor
Pueblo West, CO