Re: [cobirds] Re: A situation (Boulder)

When you raptor monitor for CPW you are not allowed to share for this reason... 

discretion is the better part of valor....' for the birds

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, 8:15 AM Chuck Aid <birdmon@evergreenaudubon.org> wrote:

Dan Stringer is right on!  Nip it all in the bud by not posting - when we decide it's best not to post something, none of the issues we're discussing will occur.

Chuck Aid

Evergreen, CO

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 3:18:58 PM UTC-7 Dan Stringer wrote:

There's good food for thought in this thread which we should keep with us on the trail. And when we're in people's neighborhoods. To me, whether it becomes disruptive to the bird and/or property owners is often determined before anyone arrives. Since we know that the birding community is ever-larger, more connected with intel traveling fast and far, more discretion re: what we put out there these days might be necessary. 

My comments aren't so much about this specific owl or this location, rather that we can often determine ahead of time what type of scenario would develop and choose when to lay low. I appreciate when someone provides info about an uncommon bird and I like to share interesting sightings too. What owls and other species not to list, breeding situations, proximity to neighbors or viewing area, etc. is always situational and often above my pay-grade but my takeaway is when we decide it's best not to post something, none of the issues we're discussing will occur.

Dan Stringer

Larkspur, CO

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 11:42:37 AM UTC-7 Dave Leatherman wrote:

It has come to my attention that photographers, some of whom may be birders, are causing a problem west of Lyons in their lust for a pygmy-owl.  At the risk of pissing some of you off, and causing even more people to seek this bird by publicizing it, I ask for restraint.  The person who called me is not a birder but a guy I used to work with who knows I am into birds.  He owns property bordering Route 7 w of town where he says 16 cars full of loud-talking people pointing big cameras, rutting the right-of-way that he maintains are back again today, the way they have been in numbers for days (weeks?).  He is upset and I don't blame him.  He says that whoever these people are, they don't really care about the bird, that they act very entitled, that this is all just about getting the photo and social.  In short these sorts of situations give birders a black eye and they are becoming more commonplace.  If anyone reading this knows about the situation first hand, has been there, has a comment or rebuttal I can pass on to my friend, I am all ears.  My friend hasn't called the sheriff yet but is about to and it makes me sad to think "we" might have caused a reasonable person with deep sentiments for conservation and the natural world to be so upset.

Dave Leatherman

Fort Collins

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