Sunday, 18 April 2021

Re: [cobirds] Re: Changing Common Names of birds; example, Steller’s Jay

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On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Nathan Pieplow <npieplow@gmail.com> wrote:


Why should Steller get a jay named after him when he spent only a few hours with the species and learned virtually nothing about it? He just happened to be the first European person to shoot one.

"The Makahs tell a story about how the bird we know as the Steller's Jay - the bird the Makahs call Kwish-kwishee - got its crest. The mink, Kwahtie, tried to shoot his mother, the jay, with an arrow but missed. Her crest is ruffled to this day."


Doesn't the name "Kwish-kwishee" ring with more romance than "Steller's Jay"?

Nathan Pieplow
Boulder

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:09 PM Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14@gmail.com> wrote:
Bob
Maybe it will turn out that Steller  was a Confederate general and they will change the name to Mountain Jay
Ira Sanders 

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 12:30 PM Robert Righter <rorighter@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter the Great,Tsar of all of Russia, invited Georg W. Steller, a German scientist to come to Russia and help explore and catalogue it's natural history. In 1741 Steller joined the Vitus Bering Expedition in sailing east to discover what was out there. After several weeks   they bumped into new land now known as Alaska. Steller discovered a jay, now known as Steller's Jay. The expedition sailed west exploring the Aleutians. Out of many of Steller's new discoveries was a new eagle, now known as Steller's Sea Eagle.

Doesn't the eponymic name Steller's Jay evoke more romance, interest, and wonder than if it was just called, for convenience, say "Mountain" Jay?

Bob Righter
Denver, CO  

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