Thanks Dave -
This gives me a good start to checking out Tiger Moths. It will give me something to do in my spare time. I was also enlightened to hear about the problem that "the hairs" give to the birds. But obviously they have solved this problem very well. When I was checking out the photos I did notice that the lunch item was seemingly hairless. That is why I thought they might not be caterpillars – since they were mostly hair deficient. Now I realize why the birds had them down on the gravel road – this location probably makes it easier for them to do the scalping...
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Mark Amershek
Denver, Colorado
From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: Mark A
Subject: RE: Mountain Bluebirds - Eating
Hi,
I have spent considerable time solving this issue of, "What are the early bluebirds that hover over the prairie getting?". The specific site I observed most was the Pawnee Grasslands just west of Crow Valley. My conclusion is that these are some type of "tiger moth" (Family Noctuidae, Subfamily Arctiinae (which used to be considered the Family Arctiinae), Tribe Artiini , Genus Grammia. We have more than one species in this genus on the eastern plains of CO. The larvae eat various lower plants, including some grasses, and overwinter in this stage. On warm days they become active and certain ones of these are considered the fastest moving larvae of any North American macromoth (large moth). When I was watching the Mountain Bluebirds on the Pawnee back in the 1980's, they would hover kestrel-style and, in so doing, eventually discover and obtain a prey item. The caterpillars zoom from one tuft of bunchgrass to another. It took me a long time to figure this out. I felt quite foolish, running to an area where a bluebird had been hovering, only to see nothing. When I finally saw a sudden movement, it was a caterpillar streaking across an open area between grass clumps. Once I had the search image, I started seeing this pretty frequently and the mystery was solved. Once a bluebird had a caterpillar, on every occasion it was taken to a fence post (usually) or to an open area of prairie. There, it was unceremoniously thropped until flaccid and nearly hairless. I think the majority of what looks like excessive force during this whole process is that which removed the hairs. The hairs have to be formidable impediments to easy ingestion and must be removed to a considerable degree before the caterpillar body can be consumed. But since insect food is tough to come by during the weeks when northward movements in February and March take place, I guess an armed caterpillar is worth the effort it takes to de-arm it.
So, that's what I think is going on. It is interesting that Mark said something about a "pine tree", as there is a tiger moth that occasionally infests various foothills conifers, makes conspicuous tents in the very tops of infested trees, and the caterpillars ARE present in the winter months. But the ones in Mark's photos do NOT look like that species (Lophocampa ingens). Thus, I think my "pretty sure" ID of Grammia sp. is correct.
You could do a search for "Grammia tiger moth images" and see examples of the adults. They all sort of look similar in general color scheme and pattern arrangement, and I am sure most astute birders have seen similar creatures in the field during the warm months.
I enjoyed your observations here.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
From: mamershek@msn.com
To: daleatherman@msn.com
CC: zarneu@comcast.net; lindab_qop@hotmail.com; tkwidjaja@gmail.com
Subject: Mountain Bluebirds - Eating
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:10:15 -0600
I have spent considerable time solving this issue of, "What are the early bluebirds that hover over the prairie getting?". The specific site I observed most was the Pawnee Grasslands just west of Crow Valley. My conclusion is that these are some type of "tiger moth" (Family Noctuidae, Subfamily Arctiinae (which used to be considered the Family Arctiinae), Tribe Artiini , Genus Grammia. We have more than one species in this genus on the eastern plains of CO. The larvae eat various lower plants, including some grasses, and overwinter in this stage. On warm days they become active and certain ones of these are considered the fastest moving larvae of any North American macromoth (large moth). When I was watching the Mountain Bluebirds on the Pawnee back in the 1980's, they would hover kestrel-style and, in so doing, eventually discover and obtain a prey item. The caterpillars zoom from one tuft of bunchgrass to another. It took me a long time to figure this out. I felt quite foolish, running to an area where a bluebird had been hovering, only to see nothing. When I finally saw a sudden movement, it was a caterpillar streaking across an open area between grass clumps. Once I had the search image, I started seeing this pretty frequently and the mystery was solved. Once a bluebird had a caterpillar, on every occasion it was taken to a fence post (usually) or to an open area of prairie. There, it was unceremoniously thropped until flaccid and nearly hairless. I think the majority of what looks like excessive force during this whole process is that which removed the hairs. The hairs have to be formidable impediments to easy ingestion and must be removed to a considerable degree before the caterpillar body can be consumed. But since insect food is tough to come by during the weeks when northward movements in February and March take place, I guess an armed caterpillar is worth the effort it takes to de-arm it.
So, that's what I think is going on. It is interesting that Mark said something about a "pine tree", as there is a tiger moth that occasionally infests various foothills conifers, makes conspicuous tents in the very tops of infested trees, and the caterpillars ARE present in the winter months. But the ones in Mark's photos do NOT look like that species (Lophocampa ingens). Thus, I think my "pretty sure" ID of Grammia sp. is correct.
You could do a search for "Grammia tiger moth images" and see examples of the adults. They all sort of look similar in general color scheme and pattern arrangement, and I am sure most astute birders have seen similar creatures in the field during the warm months.
I enjoyed your observations here.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
From: mamershek@msn.com
To: daleatherman@msn.com
CC: zarneu@comcast.net; lindab_qop@hotmail.com; tkwidjaja@gmail.com
Subject: Mountain Bluebirds - Eating
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:10:15 -0600
Dave -
Attached please find a couple of photos of Mountain Bluebirds taken last Saturday – north of DIA – 03/07/15. Is there any way that you could assist in identifying the caterpillars (grubs) that the birds are eating. I believe that they were getting them from a pine tree – but not sure of that fact.
Your assistance in this inquiry is greatly appreciated. Inquiring minds would like to know...
Have a great week – and enjoy the improved weather.
Mark Amershek
Denver
303.329.8646
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